In today’s Killer Instinct Textual Stream, Microsoft’s Adam Isgreen takes us through the evolution of Killer Instinct Xbox One’s Cinder, from his early conceptual stage to how he’s currently looking the game today…
Here’s a few rough concepts we did in-house at Microsoft over a year ago on Cinder.
Notice that we were experimenting with a “back facing” stance, different alien-hybrid type treatments (organic to machine), and a pose that is reminiscent of a gunslinger. This was to convey some of the attitude we wanted to hit, plus his “fired up” mechanic, which we’ll talk about next week. The lanky nature of the new Cinder was a product of the splicing of a human (Ben Ferris) with Glacius’ DNA, which is part of Cinder’s new backstory.
Here’s the original concept based on the original human/alien hybrid concept. As you have already seen, this is not what Cinder looks like now.
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OMG! Crazy! Four eyes? Yep… for a bit at least. We wanted to see how far we could push things before we reigned them back in. This is part of the design process we do – you have to go way out there in order to get some perspective on what’s necessary and important for a character. We went WAY out with him.
Notice the hex patterning on the armor – that’s Ultratech’s signature on tech – which we’re carrying through to everything that UT creates.
So from here, we went a lot of different directions with him. There were discussions around him being so alien looking already, why didn’t we really make him an alien so that the rivalry between him and Glacius was “real”? We explored it, but as we discussed it further and worked with the backstory and lore, we felt going completely alien with him was betraying the original concept in favor of convenient setup for the sake of a rivalry with Glacius. So, we tossed that out and embraced Ben Ferris as Cinder for the sake of continuity to the IP.
In the original game, Ben was in prison and UT gave him a chance at early parole if he volunteered for these experiments. The problem we had with this is that Ben being a petty crook wasn’t sitting well with us, yet we didn’t want him to be some mastermind criminal, nor someone on death row. We also didn’t want him to be a caught criminal, as that implied he wasn’t as good as he thought he was… and we wanted him to be really, really good.
This is where we pivoted Ben into a former spec-ops soldier turned master thief for hire. Best in the world at stealing things… could handle himself in a fight… never caught… until he went up against ARIA and Ultratech. ARIA gave him a choice, join her and help further her agenda, or die. Joining up, as I’m sure you can tell, wasn’t as simple as just saying “yes”.
Since the concept above and even since the trailer tease you saw last week, lots of changes have happened with Cinder. Obviously, we ditched the two sets of eyes early on, but here’s some other changes we considered…
Face
Cinder’s mask is actually tech, but its purpose is to protect his face and shield people around him from being horribly burned and irradiated by the energies he contains. You can see above we had a version with the mouth omitted when he’s armored up, but we lost some of the personality and some sense of his human side which was important because…
What about when it’s not covered? Well, you can see the work in progress on that right now, also showing you how his facemask dissolves away in hexes when he turns it off.
So yeah… if you think that having your DNA modified spliced with that of an alien would be really cool… you may want to rethink that.
Body:
We’ve done modifications even over the trailer. First has been in his “bulk”. Cinder wasn’t a thin guy in KI1, and as we animated some of his early moves, his lean appearance wasn’t working to sell the power of his hits. So, we’ve also bulked him up some since you first saw him.
Here’s a still of Cinder with vfx turned off to show his combat stance. Note his waist has also changed completely; now much more human, new leg plates are added, and the codpiece from the concept is gone. And what stage could that be?!
So that’s a look at the creation of and evolution of the new Cinder, who will be releasing later this month! What’s your thoughts and perception on how he’s looking in his current incarnation?
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They should of went whith the first body they had for cinder and his first stance cuz its all unique but I do like the current face they have an then add flames and he would be great I really think they should focus on image of these fighters they did a great job with hisako though and I love the new updated colors and weapons oh and kim wu first on season 3 along with fatalaties
Super saiyen Jin dbz cinder ???????
He looks great so far. His suit is more support/containment. The new story is way better. Happy they did not make him just a fire alien. The fact UT would make a counter measure to Glacius makes complete sense. Great work MS/IG!
Called it, sorta alien DNA from glacius fire based. IG make S3 happen cant stop the hype!!
I called the glacius v cinder alien battle shit ages ago, glad they’ve gone back to his roots. He still looks silly with armour on but hey… they just HAVE to change something. They should have just focused on his flame effects (vfx) thats all.
He kinda got that Kazuya Mishima stance….nice!
Damn……Cinder looks dope!………Beyond amped!
I love how they took feedback and changed him even without the VFX that last pic is looking awesome!
Hell yes! Neato! Very good! 😀